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I've been itching to try out my new mic, so I decided to see how quickly I could put something together from scratch. This was just over 5 hours (including a supper breaks and changing the loads in the laundry). It's rough, but hey, the real purpose was to test the mic. I solved some of the problems I initially had with the mic, thanks to the help of some fellow MacJammers and a relocation of my recording equipment.

The song is just my standard dissatisfaction with the BS we are being handed by political, social and religious leaders these days. It's a little rough. Might smooth it out some later.

And for those of you familiar with some of my previous works, notice just how little reverb I used (except on the piano.) :)
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Lyrics
We both know, time changes every thing
ebb and flow, the blind will finally see

Tell the world, your fairy tale
find the fear, while you make believe

Can you stand on the stage
and tell the world your lies

Will you stay on your knees
while our freedoms slowly die

We can’t see eye to eye
I won’t believe your lies
We can’t see eye to eye
If you’re looking at the ground
and I -
I’m looking at the sky

See the smiles, that hide the hate
speak of love, but fuel the rage

Hide the words, and hide the truth
seperate those, who disagree

Will you face the world
with hate behind your eyes

Keep people on their knees
while their free-doms slowly die

We can’t see eye to eye
I won’t believe your lies
We can’t see eye to eye
If you’re looking at the ground
and I -
I’m looking at the sky

We both know, time changes every thing
ebb and flow, the lost will finally see

Tell the world, your fairy tale
find the fear, while you make believe
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Comments: 19
Fans: 6
Plays: 497
Downloads: 180
Votes: 9
Uploaded: Nov 14, 2005 - 02:11:16 AM
Last Updated: Jan 31, 2012 - 01:37:35 PM Last Played: Sep 04, 2017 - 09:05:40 AM
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Hardware:
iBook, Epiphone guitar, Peavey Foundation bass, M-Audio Keystation, Behringer mixer, MXL 990 Mic.
Software:
GB, iTunes, the socio-political-religious state of the nation, a rainy day.
Comments
said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Looking forward
to hearng more with your new mic. It captures your voice very well - your
voice conveys (to me) a sense of fragility and innocence (which with lyrics
sometimes conveys innocence lost).
I hope you do work on a smoother version or incorporate some of these
lyrics and ideas into something else.
jgurner said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Looking forward
You pegged me, just a fragile and innocent little flower. :)

I appreciate the comments. There are a lot of things in this song I like. I've got some other stuff I want to finish in the next few weeks, but I think I'll definitely revisit this one.

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
funky_luv_lolli said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
The Lyric
This song
has a very touching lyric.
The singer has a good
voice and i like it very much.
a nice song with nice
lyrics
jgurner said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
The Lyric
I appreciate your comments. Thanks for stopping by and listening and welcome to MacJams!

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
ledebutant said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Success
Very cool to hear your voice through the new mic, J! Who needs reverb
when you've got good recording. I'm excited because it means
Rebecca's voice will come through a good mic, too. Yay! (Not to
mention Neil)

This song is a great start and, like Mungo, I'd love to see you develop it
into a more polished version. In a few spots, your vocal goes a little out
of key at the end of a line, but I think it's mild enough that you could
apply a little tuning correction and that would take care of it.

The chorus is especially catchy.
jgurner said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Success
I can't wait until Rebecca gets a chance to use the new mic as well. She's just getting over a cold and is heading into finals, so it will still be a while probably. She has at least two tunes in the works, one of which is a collaboration between the two of us (she sings). We figured we've been together for almost 18 years now, so working on a song together might not destroy our marriage. :D

By the time I had recorded the lead vocals on this one, I had recorded and trashed them about half a dozen times, so my voice was a little tired. I always forget about the tuning correction, though, until someone mentions it in a comment. I'll give it a whirl and see what happens.

Thanks for listening, Lisa. And thanks for your support.

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
Macaudion said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
It's a very nice mic
Thank you Jg, for being willing to bare your soul by turning off the
reverb. I liked it that way and didn't know that you were using it, until I
went back and was reading some of your previous comments. This is a
very clean recording and production.

The lyrics were as they always are, top notch, heartfelt and clearly,
from a place of truth... It's funny, my next forum post I've been itching
to ask, 'why do you always hear the inmates of one political party say
things like, 'I am proud to be an american', but that you never hear
these words being spouted out from the other cell blocks... And, what
type of person flies the american flag..., Curious me - Answers and
questions to come I'm sure.

I always enjoy the 'space' of your tunes and how this simplicity can
pack so much power. It's about sincerity of content, I do believe... And
it goes w/o saying, that I'm always attracted to your vocals..., - Reverb
aside, they always sound like they're coming from a real person...

Thanks for including us in the mic check, JG

A very nice mic, indeed...

Dion
Check out my latest song called Picture country living
jgurner said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
It's a very nice mic
The other day as I was cleaning up my MP3 collection, I was listening to some of my favorite commercial stuff and I realized with some of my favorite artists (mostly from the early 80s) that they used a whole lot of reverb. I think that's where my addicition comes from. That and my insecurities about the sound of my voice.

Your comments about a song sounding like it came from "a real person" got me thinking, and I think that's one of the things that has attracted me to MacJams and homegrown and recorded music. Even most of the best commercial music doesn't sound like it's come from a "real person." It's gone through so many filters that the realness is gone. Even a simple "ooh baby" pop tune sounds better, to me anyway, because you know on the other side there is another actual person, not a "star," who is spending their precious free time making something they enjoy. It's not a business.

Thanks for the comments and the points to ponder, Dion. You've gotten a good knack at asking questions and bringing up points for discussion. If you ever decide you want to be underpaid, underappreciated and overworked, you ought to go into journalism. :D

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
jackstone said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Tender melody
You always create warm sound.
So nice to my ears. Beautiful Lylics too.
Great work again!
Check out my latest song called watchawant session
jgurner said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Tender melody
Thanks, jackstone. Your support and comments are always very much appreciated. Thanks for listening.

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
rtcooper said 4387 days ago (November 14th, 2005)
Great Vocal Capture!
And Not just The Mic. (Though it seems Very Honest and Detailed).

Reconfiguring one's rig, as I recently did, is BIG. Amazing how haphazard
we get just adding things and not caring for the signal flow.

Fine Piece with a Great MIx.

Best,
Coop

PS I LOVE Reverb, Mea Culpa.
Check out my latest song called The Loon and the Hula Moon (mstr)
jgurner said 4386 days ago (November 15th, 2005)
Great Vocal Capture!
Thanks for the comments, RT!

It's kind of funny that the setup I use now is fairly cheap compared to the system
my friends and I pieced together in college to record, even if you include the
iBook. We had a room full of mics, mixers, amps, all run into what, at the time,
was a state of the art Fostex 4-track recorder. By the time we got set up, we
didn't really want to record any more.

Now all I need is a corner of the spare room. Ain't technology great!

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
bronco said 4386 days ago (November 15th, 2005)
Sounds Good to Me
Doesn't sound rough at all to me. Of course that just maybe in
comparison with my stuff. The out of tune singing is not enough to
worry about. Neil Young has made a fortune with much more than this
as his trademark. I think that's what some folks miss these days is that
if you look at the great artists (not singers), they all have very distinct
but less than perfect voices. When you hear a Bob Dylan, Van Morrison,
Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Willie Nelson song, you know who it is in
the first bar. It is that individuality (along with writing great lyrics and
the ability to communicate those lyrics) that set them apart and made
them more than pop stars. And my vote is that your voice sounds great
without the reverb and makes your lyrics stand out and be more
accessible.
Check out my latest song called Satisfied Mind
jgurner said 4386 days ago (November 15th, 2005)
Sounds Good to Me
Thanks for the comments, Tom. Several of the artists you mentioned are ones I think about when I worry about how my vocals sound. I'd much rather write good lyrics and sing them with a less-than-perfect voice than have a great voice and nothing decent to sing. Nowadays as long as the cats don't freak and the dogs don't howl I'm pretty pleased. I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment.

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
stevel said 4386 days ago (November 15th, 2005)
Wow is this the new Neil Young album?
Great stuff...Shaky himself would be proud of this track!
Steve
Check out my latest song called Broken Toy
jgurner said 4385 days ago (November 15th, 2005)
Wow is this the new Neil Young album?
Thanks Steve, 'preciate it. I've seriously got to start listening to some NY. The
only stuff I have is with Crosby, Stills and Nash (some of my all-time favorites).
Thanks for stopping by and listening.

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Some people are like big children, harming others without even seeing it. Staying angry with these fools is like being mad at fire because it burns.
Check out my latest song called 1967
Joshosh said 4357 days ago (December 13th, 2005)
Lesson in panning!
Love the lead guitar panned left and right, and the surround sound background vox! Very full, complete sound. Wow, there's a whole other world out there in terms of production. This song is a great example of how to enhance an already solid performance. Love the potential, but to me it's pretty good as is.
Check out my latest song called It's You
screamalexz said 4339 days ago (December 31st, 2005)
political
ahh im wanting to post my political songs now, but need to polish them up a bit. i think itd sound better sung a little lower. nice lyrics, this may work good with a more sort of punky feel to it. but then, your song, and it's nice like this
Check out my latest song called Broken Spirit
said 4271 days ago (March 10th, 2006)
Nice tune
I really enjoy listen on this great song.
You have save my day.
Thanks for sharing this nice song.
Keep up the goog work.

Sincerely
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Skean
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