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We have a long-time friend who came to Australia in the 70s to escape war in Lebanon – he married a school friend of ours. Jim is a successful Lebanese Australian who has given a lot to the community, worked hard and done well for himself – he is one of the most decent people I know. His extended family left Lebanon at roughly the same time as he did – to Paraguay, Australia, the US and other countries where they were offered a safer existence.

On asking how his family was this week, I learned that some had returned to Beirut after the hostilities subsided over recent years – because it was “safe” and because it had become possible to live a normal life there. I’m talking about mainstream, hard working, decent folk here. His niece Zeinab, and their baby twins are stuck in a suburb of Beirut where Israeli bombs are being directed as I write this – they are terrified but OK at the moment. She is a young woman the same age as my daughter and I cry for her and her family.

I do not support Hezbollah (although I think I understand – partly - where they are coming from) and I think that their campaign of bombings in Israel is totally unacceptable. The behaviour of Israel though is unconscionable in this current situation – a vast over-response to threat - over 400 Lebanese killed, the vast majority of whom are civilians with nothing to do with Hezbollah – many of them children. The lack of intervention and the support of Israel’s actions by the US (and Australia and other countries) upsets me deeply – it seems to me that all the impending war will do is increase the credibility of the minority radical groups in the Middle East, and as a result, their likely impact on world peace. It will kill countless innocent civilians along the way, and damage the lives of millions of others.

I am aware that these sentiments may upset some people here, and I apologise for bringing politics into this arena, but it is so frustrating to me that all I can do is write an insignificant song that goes nowhere near expressing my rage.

This song is for Zeinab, her family and all the other innocent victims of war.

My thanks go to Fran for adding the sadness and rage that I am unable to express musically.


Ziti: “In the background chords, i used volume swells and vibrato on oddball voicings of neil’s chords...i was really trying to have the sound of crying children - an orphanage full. The solos are just the wail of anguish i feel about the whole situation.

I try not to mix politics and music either...we all have our views. I do not take sides in the current conflict between hezbolah and isreal. These people seem to hate each other more than they love their children. Killing in the name of God. I cannot grasp either of these notions.

Neil’s lyrics to me don't really take sides either...but it is an accurate observation. All the people in the middle east have a decision to make. Can they ever decide to sit and talk, instead of aiming missiles and strapping bombs on?

We can pray for peace in our time. We can act to promote peace in our
time.

All I can do is play my heart.

Thanks for the cool music to play neil!

Z”

Song art from article http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1061.shtml

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Lyrics
Over There
© 2006 Neil Porter

I’m so sad
Another sleepless night
Heartless missiles flying
Desperate people crying
Over there

It’s so bad
I don’t know how you sleep
All of this attention
No signs of intervention
Over there

Leaders give the orders
Someone pulls the trigger
Someone straps the bombs on
Someone aims the missile
They all make decisions
All except the targets
They get blown away

It can’t be
These pictures can’t be real
Demolishing a nation
Killing moderation
Over there

I can’t see
How this can ever heal
Politicians lying
Frightened people dying
Over there

Armies do the fighting
No-one wants to be there
No-one wants to die there
No-one seems to listen
No-one hears the children
No-one has the answers
They all get blown away
Song Stats
Hits: 7663
Comments: 88
Fans: 29
Plays: 803
Downloads: 38
Votes: 28
Uploaded: Aug 06, 2006 - 08:31:04 PM
Last Updated: Oct 16, 2007 - 01:58:23 AM Last Played: Jul 27, 2017 - 11:52:02 AM
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Neil:
Seagull S6 acoustic
1971 Fender Precision Bass
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Behringer UB802 mixer/preamp
Fran:
PRS (not sure which one)
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Comments
Boris the Bull said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
thoughts from the bull...
talking in regard about the song, it pains me that mainstream radio will
never get to hear this. it's not only a pair up of two of brilliant
performers, but the song's content/message is so powerful and
poignant, that is should be "blowing up" the charts.

i guess Clay, Ashlee, and 50 Cent are just creating more important
music. sorry... sarcasm.

simply brilliant, gents. thank you.
Check out my latest song called What You'd Be Like
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
thoughts from the bull...
Thanks Boris, it started out as a simple chord sequence and turned into a
monster. I'm really pleased how this ended up both musically and lyrically,
and Fran's guitars were just perfect.
50 Cent - what's that????
: )
Neil

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renecalvo said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
greetings from laos
Im traveling through another country that was sesnslessly bombed by the west. Listen Neil, there is a story about how the beatles met bob dylan during the latters meteoric rise. they lavished praise on him which was answerd by silence. breaking it, john lennon asked: well what do you think of our music? to which dylan replied: well, your music isnt about anything. The beatles next album was rubber soul.
Check out my latest song called Mumbo Jumbo
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
greetings from laos
Laos eh - still haven't been there even though it's so (relatively) close. We
seem to bomb lots of places don't we!? Thanks for the comment - Rubber
Soul was exceptional.
Enjoy your travels! What a buzz, someone's listened to our song in Laos :)
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
trembmic said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
powerful...
You've painted a powerful picture here. THe lyrics speak for themselves. You backed them with a straight forward melody. I loved how you created so much tension and release with the chord progression in the chorus and the back and forth between the major and minor key.
You also did a great job building up the song gradually with the orchestration and instrumentation. It takes the listener on a ride from start to finish!
Thanks for putting your heart into this one!

Mike T.
Check out my latest song called Open Your Eyes
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
powerful...
Appreciate your comments Mike. Interesting what you say about major/
minor keys and such - I'm very much self taught and really don't have much
theory in my background at all. Like you, I'm a bass player, and I dabble in
guitar, keys and drums. One thing I love about MJ i that I can ask someone
like Fran to play guitars for me. This started life as a collection of chords
without lyrics which came to me after the conversation described in the intro
- the dynamics of the song reflect my increasing anger and sadness as I
realised what it was that I was writing. Fran was able to reflect the feel I was
after without much discussion between us. This will be a special song for me
for a while I suspect.
Thanks for listening Mike,
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
ledebutant said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
Thank you guys...
...for caring enough to spend the time to do something to express your
feelings about this situation. I've been having nightmares the last few
nights related to the situation in Lebanon and the reason is what you
express so well in your introduction to the song, that the people under
the bombs are us, they're just like us, they wonder why the dryer eats
their socks, they floss even though it's a pain in the butt, they laugh
when their children do silly things. It could be any one of us and it's
important to care the way you do.

This is a wonderful song all around, not just the message. I wouldn't
change a thing.
ziti said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
Thank you guys...
thanks ledeb! Neil has written a powerful song. Plus it rocks, I think!. He is
a remarkably original bass player. And his timing is very hip. As with
Einarus's tunes, I just seem to hear the parts right away with neils
songs...then i just gotta figure out how to play them....

So< thanks to Neil for this gret song and letting me play on it!

z
Check out my latest song called The Viconian Cyclist
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Thank you guys...
Thanks for the comment Lisa. The indelible image for me is of a school being
evacuated in Beirut - mainly primary aged kids from the looks of
them - and one of the older girls comes down the stairs and when she
reaches the ground she is so totally frightened that she can't move. What
right does anyone have to cause a child to get like that?
I've just been visiting my daughter and granddaughter in Sydney which really
only reinforced Zeinab's plight for me. You're absolutely right Lisa, that's us
under the bombs, hiding in bomb shelters and fearful of suicide bombers. It
would be really nice to think that we had evolved beyond this sort of
behaviour.
Fran's comment about my "hip" timing is amusing considering I've been laid
up with a hip injury for a few days - I don't think he knew about that :)
Always appreciate your comments Lisa.
Cheers,
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
drakonis said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
50 megatons of message
Neil, you and Fran carry a universal message of anger against the
senselessness of war, with a 50 megaton payload of music and verse.
When the political message is delivered the way you have done so here,
there's no need to be apologetic about the content, it is very well
thought out, written and performed. As far as critique, my only
concern is that this song is a slow-builder, it starts out somewhat
inoccuously, and I wasn't sure it was going to have much impact at
first, but I slowly got sucked in, and by the second chorus, I realized
this was a very powerful song. I hope people just stop, sit down and
listen to this all the way through, because it takes time to build. Some
people will see the subject material, listen to the first few lines, and
skip to something else... it doesn't have an instant "hook", but if you
stick with it, its quite a powerful song. Great great work you two!
Faved this one, I have!
ttfn,
Drakonis
Check out my latest song called Miwok
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 6th, 2006)
50 megatons of message
Thanks for the positive comments Drak - I'm kind of hoping that ziti's name
in the title might give people a bit of a hint that it might develop into
something. I felt it was important for people to be able to hear the lyrics at
least once without the heavy stuff impinging on the message getting through.
I've always liked a song that builds up from very little into a screamer, and am
pleased that this one seems to have achieved that. Thanks for stopping by
for a listen.
Cheers,
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
stevel said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Good stuff and important too
Great track Neil, as usual you manage to cut to heart of the matter
without coming across as preachy or didactic. Yes the situation in
Lebanon is extremely depressing as is the ambivalent response of most of
the major world powers.
We can only hope that the aggressive fools on both sides of this conflict
will come to a sensible permanent ceasefire this week - the rest of the
world should really be applying the necessary pressure for this to happen.
Anyway this is a powerful track!
Steve
Check out my latest song called Broken Toy
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Good stuff and important too
Thanks for taking the time to listen Steve - I wouldn't hold my breath on a
sensible permanent ceasefire if I were you!
Peace,
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
GUION said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Impressive
Impressive. The tragedy animates to the creativity and in this point they
have obtained with enormous force and intensity to it. Thanks for this.
Check out my latest song called Baxar
jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Impressive
Juan Carlos, thank you for listening and leaving a comment. No matter where
we are in the world, we are all effected by this. Peace/Paz!
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
GUION said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Impressive
Peace/paz, friend
Check out my latest song called Baxar
Tadashi Togawa said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Wish put in song.
There is a wick in your song.
Aspect of size of the earth.
The guitar is a spokesman.
It sings with you.
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jiguma said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Wish put in song.
Thanks for listening and leaving a comment Tadashi - I always appreciate
hearing what you have to say.
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
Scott Carmichael said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
masterfully rendered
sober and somber... the musical build and changes are so effective...
very intuitive writing...you've usually got to put on some mileage
before you can produce something this mature... Z's work here is the
right frosting... this is not a nit, but did you consider taking the drums
out of the 1/2 time feel, as Fran riffs his way out... something to
capture that feel of escilation, and drive it home

hi marks from me
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
masterfully rendered
Thanks for listening Scott - this is the second colab I've done with Fran, and
is a really good example of how he can lift a song. On our previous colab I
initially wrote and uploaded the song without even thinking of Fran, and the
difference made was incredible. This time I did have him in the back of my
mind when the song started to take shape, so i left the appropriate spaces
open for him. Once again his exceptional guitar playing made a huge
difference to this song.
I hadn't thought of the drum option you mentioned, but you're right, it would
have been an interesting option. I've used that before in final solos - the
tambourine goes a little way towards that end.
Cheers, Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
Mcboy said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
in the tradition
of modern folk....the reporting through music of events of
importance.....thanks for using music to help enlighten and push peace in
the direction of need.......bravo........powerful music....
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
in the tradition
Cheers Mcboy - peace sure could use some pushing at the moment!
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
The Composer said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
deep
Just a few comments. Really well done here. Fantastic playing, singing
and lyricism. My normal comment of constantsy doesn't apply as much
here because you've built it nice and slowly. Really like the swells Ziti
and the drums are sounding heaps better Neil! And although I still
don't like fade outs, you've given this one a decent time.

These days armies should only be used for peace keeping in places like
East Timor or Humanitarian aid. I completely agree with your
statement about Hezbollah too.

Shame such a great piece of music is associated with this kind of stuff
really.
Check out my latest song called Blood Is Boiling (By Faeble)
jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
deep
Thanks Bryan - I've used Drums on Demand on this one (to try it out as much
as anything). I have another one in the works with a revised midi kit which I'll
be interested to hear your comments on. I was at uni through the early 70s
and unfortunately, none of this is new - if it's not Lebanon it's Vietnam or as
Rene mentioned above, Laos. It seems we (as a race) just can't live peacefully
together. I'm hoping you and your age-peers (not to mention my daughter,
son-in-law and granddaughter) get to see world peace. Cheers, Neil

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Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
TobinMueller said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Blowin' in the wind
I lived across the hall from two mathematicians at UW-Madison in the
80s who, 20 years ago, returned to Lebanon when they, too, thought
things were safer. A few weeks later, one Saturday morning their son
was blown to bits by terrorists while riding his bike in front of an
embassy in Beirut. It was his first ride on his new birthday bicycle, age
10.

Things only get worse, and, I believe, will continue to get worse until
the Muslim world rises up in Reformation against religions and political
fear mongers, gangster dictators in the making all, who provoke for
political gain. It may well be that there is nothing the non-muslim
world can do about it, one way or the other. Turn our backs, and they
may continue fundamentalist hegemony until everyone human being in
the region become "believers" (Afghanistan under the Taliban writ
large). Fight back and we prove their points and make them stronger.
Intervene on behalf of moderation, as Clinton and others did, and
discover that you are hated even more for being weak. As your song
suggests, there are no answers that can be imposed from the outside,
without sufficient Arab changes.

I have a very hard time condemning Israel for "over-response" since I
cannot imagine not wanting to "over" respond myself if my country's
very existence were being continually threatened or my family was
forever and always condemned by terrorists who make it a point to
ravage civilians and sabotage political solutions. If Hezbellah and
Hamas (and their backers) threw all their weapons in the sea today,
there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel threw all its weapons in the
sea today, they would be slaughter tomorrow.

Even many of these children's mothers, who presumably hear them
better than any (as your song implores), applaud when their children
strap on bombs to themselves. As has been said, Arab mothers and
fathers must love their own children more than they hate Israel before
grief can become a catalyst for peace.

Thank you for singing. And thank you for continuing to collaborate,
ziti.
Check out my latest song called Momentary Undertow
jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Blowin' in the wind
Tobin, a difficult comment to respond to here. I'm with you most of the way,
although I'd disagree with your generalisation about Arab mothers and
fathers - all the ones I've met are just like you or me. They have hopes and
intense love for their children just like we do. I'm glad you responded as you
did because it has given me a little more of a concept of what living there as
"the odd ones out" might be like.
Bottom line for me is that there are many innocents being killed on either
side of the border - Hezbollah are clearly undesirables, but I'd like to think
both sides had more compassion for the innocent bystander.
As always, I really appreciate you listening and leaving a comment Tobin.
Peace, Neil

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Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
TobinMueller said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Blowin' in the wind
Thanks for the kind-minded response. You are a wonderful soul and I love
your music, all aspects. I don't mean to generalize, only specify that certain
parents need to love their own children more than they hate "outsiders,"
which is clearly not the case when mothers applaud suicide terrorist sons.
And without those specific sons, this current conflict would not be
happening. Social violence like this is not just about war and long-standing
hatreds and dispossession, but about adolescent males and what they
embrace to find meaning. If young men suddenly behaved like middle-aged
men or women, war as we know it would end. Also, it is not only about
rejecting the West or the USA or killing Jews, but it is about holding onto a
changing face of Islam; these sons are fighting for something much deeper
than we acknowledge, even as their way of fighting destroys what they want
to glorify. Yes, I grieve and feel compassion. Your songs speak truth and
speak it well. The answers are, still, blowing in the wind. Its just that the wind
is getting stronger.
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rtcooper said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
A Cold Calculus
Your emphatic Plea of Rational Passion is the more piercing for its
logical and palpable reasonings. "No one hears the Children."

The Cold Calculus of Politicians.

There was, once, a time that this country would have sent the 101st
Airbourne to eat the combatants alive for such supercillious
callousness.

Now, we send Condi Rice over for tea parties. The Shame is unbarable.

The Song resonates, deeply. Mr. Z and you, clearly, shared the same
wavelength. SCORE: Politicians, 10; Humans with Brain/Heart, 0.

Best Regards,
rtc

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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
A Cold Calculus
Thanks for the comment Coop. Humans with brain/heart can only sit back
and watch sometimes unfortunately. The song is a drop in the ocean of anti-
war feeling around the place - maybe one day politicians will look past their
own pecuniary interests and put on their hats of compassion - but don't hold
your breath!
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Politics & Religion
Nice music here, boys.
Not particularly fond of political rants. We are all manipulated one way or another. I try not to get involved in politics or religion on my music sites. It's all negative energy in the end. I agree w/Fran's assessment more closely than Neil's. But, as usual, fine musical collab.
jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Politics & Religion
Cheers James, I don't really see this as a political song (although it seems to
have headed in that direction) but more of a song about amazement and
compassion, anger and sadness. It's hard to write passionate music about
something that doesn't stir up emotions - I don't really see it as negative
energy. Anyway, glad to see you have a listen and leave a comment - glad
you liked our little tune. Thanks, Neil

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Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
stacey said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Gorgeous
Such a gorgeous song. Obviously, the content is heavy and thought-
provoking. Technically, I think the vocals could use a little work? Not to
nit-pick, because it's so damn pretty. But, just maybe a little effect.

I am so sorry for your friend's family. I hope they will remain safe and that
the atrocities "over there" will soon end.

Great guitar solo by the way!
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Gorgeous
Nice to see a new face (for me anyway) commenting Stacey. I should point
out that I'm relatively new to singing, and have only been doing it for just
over 12 months, so nits re vocals are kind of anticipated. I used to use lots of
fx on my vox but decided a little while ago to actually try to improve my basic
voice - I think I've had some success (for proof, have a listen to some of my
earlier songs) but still have a long way to go. Fran's guitar work is always
good, and I'd recommend you listen to some of his tunes on his MJ page
("ziti").
Appreciate your comments and thanks for listening.
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
ziti said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
hey....neil
I just listened to this mix...downloaded from the site, and it is the best
sounding mp3! It comes really close to the GB file....great job mixing
my man!!!
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
hey....neil
Cheers Fran - glad you like it.
Neil

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Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
moorlandt said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
I'm angry
Neil, you always manage to touch me so deep with your big-hearted music. This one is no exception. Not only touching with your composition and performance this time (which again is stunning), but also with the theme and lyrics of the song. Yes I'm angry. How can such a stupid lie they call 'religion' (on both sides) give anyone the right to kill thousands of people. Will we never ever learn from history? If there's one thing we SHOULD fight, it's religion that too often leads to extremism and complete insanity.

(angry) Walter
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
I'm angry
Walter, I'm glad the song touched you. I think there are people whose
dedication to religion becomes fanatical who are very dangerous indeed
(regardless of the religion), but I also know many religious people (of varying
faiths) whose engagement with religion is a very significant positive
experience for themselves and others with whom they live. I'm not a religious
person, but don't have problems with moderate practitioners of any faith. My
knowledge of Middle East history is limited, but I suspect there are many
more factors in the current crisis than religion. Anyway, this is about the
music - I really didn't want this to become too political. Bottom line is that
innocent lives are being taken. This should NEVER be an option!
Thanks for your comments Walter, I'm really glad you liked the song.
Neil

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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/23350"> Blown Away w ziti</a>
Check out my latest song called We End Up Being All The Same (42)
thoddi said 4009 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Strong feelings
Hate and fear are feelings connected to war. Jealousy, envy and bitterness is in there as well.
I don't really think anyone on any side in any war really thinks of him/her self as evil. I think they believe what they do is the only right thing to do. And this is connected to what you say: ''I can%u2019t see, how this can ever heal'', and why it wont heal until we get a common understanding about that we all need to focus on the positive energies in life, and not the feelings dragging us down and bring out hate and his siblings. All we need is love.

Thank you for doing this song to keep focus on this important matter.
Musically - great job from both of you!
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Strong feelings
Thanks for leaving a comment Thor - I've always been a bit of a pessimist,
but it's hard not to these days. Lets hope things get better some day soon.
Neil

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Stun Nutz said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
The escalation of war in this world today is very troubling.
Your song really hits home right now. I like the thoughtful simplicity of your lyrics. Ziti's guitar really makes this a full, rich production. Nice work.
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
The escalation of war in this world today is very troubling.
Thanks for listening Stan.
Peace,
Neil

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perceptualvortex said 4008 days ago (August 7th, 2006)
Excellent collab
Zetes, your guitar playing is perfect for this. The escalating violence in
the mideast is awful and saddening, and this song is an excellent
response... in the tradition of modern folk, as Mcboy says. So many
people are callous to collateral damage, and quick to justify collective
punishment. I hope this helps open some of their eyes.
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Excellent collab
"Collateral damage" has got to be the worst phrase of the century (this and
last) - there are lots of other ways to describe it, but "heartless slaughter of
innocents" comes close.
Peace David,
Neil

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perceptualvortex said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Excellent collab
It's one of the many modern euphemisms used to disguise the evil being done. I agree, you're phrasing is much more honest.

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Feter said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
a message
I do belive music is a real language to tell people
who "want to " listen more about facts and reality
I couldnt through songs .. its more than to express
livin in westren baghdad ..after long time cryin and
whinin about this darn world and wars I reached
to a point ..those poeple want "want to " listen need
clues ...words of healin ...beside indicate errors
and knowin who is who ... thats why i reformoed my
band and named it" Brotherhood " .. something need
to be learnd to others ... and shared ... I found myself
enjoyin this song specialy the lead ..very tastey dunno
why I brought up D Gilmour flvour on my mind listein to
this song .... well done ... thank you
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
a message
Really glad you liked the song Feter - it sounds like you might know a lot
more about what's happening than the rest of us. Ziti's guitar does remind
me a bit of David Gilmour too now I think about it.
Take care,
Peace,
Neil

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said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
A strongly spoken word or two
Super work here guys, hard as it is to give praise for the nice song and great guitar work by Ziti, the message is clear and a hard pill to swallow. And then a question, how can anyone step in without exerting more physical force and damage? The Book teaches that there will never be peace in this region - but it looks like the disease is spread throughout humanity.

Tough, tough subject. Great song.

. - Harold

jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
A strongly spoken word or two
Thanks for listening Harold - don't worry, I got your message. I'm glad the
song got the message across to you.
Peace.
Neil

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joeyjojo said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Its sad
Graet track.Love the guitar work.Good production and the lyrics help put
the message across albeit a sad one .Great job guys.Peace.
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Its sad
Hi Joseph, good to see another Melbournite on MJ (I'm almost one - I live near
Merimbula). I have a new one nearly finished about David Hicks which might
interest you - stay tuned.
Peace,
Neil

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Einarus said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Powerful, indeed....
I must admit, though - I don't really follow the news about this so I
don't quite know how to look at the lyrics in perspective to things.
But I can look at them alone - and alone they are really powerful.
The songwriting in this is really good, though. Really like the
transitions between major and minor chords. Creates a really
conflicting mood, which I guess is really appropriate for this song.
Z's guitars sound really great. A great addition to a great foundation.

This is how musical collaborations should be.
Great work.

-E
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Powerful, indeed....
Hi Einar, really good to get a comment that's more about the music - I hadn't
expected quite so much feeling about the politics. I was really happy with
how this one turned out. As you know, Fran is really good to work with, and
can add a totally new dimension to a song almost overnight. This is certainly
one of my favourite songs that I've written, and probably my best recording.
Hope you're getting ready for that Icelandic winter - a good chance to write
music I expect!!
Peace,
Neil

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composerclark said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Thoughts
I've heard this a few times now, and here are my thoughts:

-Very powerful lyrics
-Very, VERY powerful lyrics (!)
-My favorite lyric is:

Leaders give the orders
Someone pulls the trigger
Someone straps the bombs on
Someone aims the missile
They all make decisions
All except the targets
They get blown away

-In fact, that could be one of my favorite lyrics of any song, anywhere,
EVER.
-Mild suggestion: "Heartless missiles flying" I liked less... not exactly
sure why. Maybe 'heartless' is too mild a word to describe missiles; or
maybe no description is necessary, given we all know what missiles do.
It's your song (and a very, very fine one), but for me changing it to
something like 'guided missiles flying' makes it a bit more stark.
-Very nice guitar solos, as always, by Ziti, but for me, the best part of
your contribution was all the background guitar sounds, which you
said were meant to sound like cries. I read the description after
listening, and even before I read that I thought they sounded like
mourning voices.
-I don't understand why you repeat everything...
-I do not like fade outs (!). I am sure there are songs for which they
are effective, but they often seem a bit weak to me, which, after such a
powerful song, was not what I thought this song needed. I am sure
there are numerous counter-arguments that are valid, though, so by all
means keep it if you like it!
-Wow. Thanks so much for this song, you guys.
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ziti said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Thoughts
thanks for the comments CC...that was the lyric line that made me want to
contribute....they all make decisions!!!

i was also drawn to this because it isnt pointing fingers as much as pleading
for sanity, on all sides.

we can only pray!

z
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jiguma said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Thoughts
Thanks for the detailed comment Clark. I'm really pleased that you liked the
tune - I guess we often hear things in other people's work that we might do
differently, but that's what makes music so interesting - we all think
differently and don't sound the same. The lyrics (I think of it as "chorus 1")
you mention choked me up many times before I could sing them properly.
"Heartless" seemed as good an adjective as any for missiles - they know not
what they do (nor care) - I think "guided" would have been too obvious, but
feel free to sing along with guided : )
Fran did a similar job with the background guitar sounds on "Doing The
Eggshell Walk", and I just LOVE the way he does it - adds another layer of
energy in a song. This time works better because I was expecting it when I
asked him to play, and was prepared.
I usually repeat my first verse to go "full circle" - a habit I've had since I
started songwriting. This time I repeated the first two and the two "choruses"
because it felt right. If I'd used more verses (there are three or four on the
studio floor as I write) I feel it would have cluttered the images and the
energy of the song. It also gave me the chance to represent the sadness
(acoustic section) and anger (ziti's) over the same lyrics.
Fade seemed like a good idea att the time - what I would have liked to do
though was
another 5 minutes of ziti before the fade, but I didn't think of it at the time.
Anyway, I'm really glad you liked our little tune and really appreciate your
comments (they go into the memory bank for the next one). Thanks, Neil

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said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Spot on mate!
This is chillingly beautiful and very apropos given the continuing carnage
in the middle-east (and elsewhere!). This is the best anti-war tune to
come out of MacJams ever! This is some of your best vocal work Neil Ziti's
lead work is inspired. Kudos!


Be well!

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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
Spot on mate!
Thanks Mike - that's a really nice thing for you to say. Although I hate having
the subject matter so readily available these days, I really appreciate being
able to express how I feel through music. There's another one on the way -
less controversial perhaps, but a big issue for me. Give me a week.
Peace,
Neil

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said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
Spot on mate!
This is chillingly beautiful and very apropos given the continuing carnage
in the middle-east (and elsewhere!). This is the best anti-war tune to
come out of MacJams ever! This is some of your best vocal work Neil Ziti's
lead work is inspired. Kudos!


Be well!

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ktb said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
loved it
Neil, really distinctive and a great overall track. Enjoyed the
progression and your voice. Zete's guitar work is masterful as always,
but it absolutely syncs in a big way here. You guys have produced a
powerful song with a huge message for anyone who bothers to really
listen.
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
loved it
Thanks John - it's always such a buzz to work with Fran - he has the ability to
lift a song way above where it was originally headed. It's really a bit of a
dream being able to ask someone with his ability to play on your song - and
have them accept!
Cheers,
Neil

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kevmikwa said 4008 days ago (August 8th, 2006)
I heard an interview
Not sure where ... a mother from the ravaged area was talking about how she would feel about her son dying as part of a skirmish with the enemy. The translation came back "I'd just have another one to fight another day". It was a truly sickening punch in the gut - it may have been from the mouth of a zealot, but it was as shocked as I've been in a long time: reducing a miracle born from love to a cog produced by a never-ending assembly line of hate.

The song is bonzer - I've come to expect nothing less from you, Neil. Ziti's tasty chops complete the package. Killer stuff, really.
jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
I heard an interview
Cheers Mike - I saw the clip you mentioned (or one similar) and it was chilling
indeed. However it reminded me of the stoicism of British families during
WWII (I wasn't there, saw it on documentaries) talking about how they
"sacrificed" a son for the general good.
Like you, I really don't get it, the same as I don't get how Hezbollah and Israel
can kill people who have no side in this war. All but one of my friend's family
in Beirut have lost their homes, but thankfully they are all still alive.
My biggest concern is that this situation can only worsen anti-western
feelings in the middle east (and closer to home for us as well in Indonesia).
I really hope we can sort this out before our respective "little people" grow up.
Peace,
Neil

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jgurner said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
A Pause to Reflect
When I first listened to this tune a couple of days ago, I honestly didn't
know what to say. You have posted a number of powerful and poignant
songs here, Neil, but I think this one tops them all. This points to the
heart of all the hatred and pain that has infected the world today. Ziti said
it best, their hate is more powerful than their love for their children.
Opposing this way of thinking goes beyond politics, religion and race, or,
at least it should.

Thanks to both of you for this one.
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jiguma said 4007 days ago (August 9th, 2006)
A Pause to Reflect
Hi Joseph - good to see you back. I really don't understand a lot of what's
happening in the world these days - the world certainly hasn't turned out how
I thought it would, which is somewhat sad. There just seem to be so mant
fronts on which the human race is stuffing up.
As I've said above, the song is a favourite of mine, and Fran really did add the
icing on the cake.
Take care,
Peace,
Neil

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Ed_Moran said 4006 days ago (August 10th, 2006)
Deep
Neil

Geat work but more important a message that needs to be heard. Love
the lyrics and the simplicity yet feeling that the song projects. The combo
of the the rythm guitar and the lead guitar is top notch.

Ed
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jiguma said 4006 days ago (August 10th, 2006)
Deep
Hi Ed - glad you liked the song and the message, and thanks for
commenting. Have you got one going up soon? Cheers, Neil

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SlimGirlFat said 4006 days ago (August 10th, 2006)
Incredible
What an incredible song.
The slow build up into the sweeping guitars and your harmonies in the
chorus are just .. well just so very powerful. The production on this is
wonderful... I love all the chord changes ..
Truly truly a brilliant collaboration. Awesome track guys.

Slimmie
D/L
jiguma said 4006 days ago (August 10th, 2006)
Incredible
Thanks for listening and leaving a comment Slimmie. Fran sure knows how
to whip up a storm doesn't he! This is certainly the song I'm proudest of at
the moment. It's good to see you back.
Neil

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said 4005 days ago (August 10th, 2006)
The heartfelt sentiments..
of your lyrics... the tone of your vocals... express a sincere and
profound message.
"No-one wants to be there
No-one wants to die there
No-one seems to listen
No-one hears the children
No-one has the answers"

Musically, you and Fran make it happen.

D
jiguma said 4005 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
The heartfelt sentiments..
Thanks for visiting and having a listen Jack.
Cheers,
Neil

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visard said 4005 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
I'm blown away!
I still find it suprising how, when music comes from some deep source, it communicates to us all, and to me in particular. Your lyrics are wonderful poetry and the guitars are very effective. Thanks. Visard
jiguma said 4005 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
I'm blown away!
Thanks for listening Edward, and for the very kind comment - glad you liked
the song and that it reached you.
Peace,
Neil

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Bubowski said 4005 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
Powerful
This is an excellent song...one whose message needs to be spread. It is so easy for people to fall into their fundamentalist view that sees only the anguish on their side and dehumanizes everyone else. This stands for fundamentalists of any stripe, muslim, christian, jew.

The humanists out there struggle daily to find the ballance that allows humanity to show through, that achieves freedom for the soul and the spirit in everyday life.

My brother lives in Jerusalem, and even though he is extremely conservative in his viewpoint, he too sees this as an overreaction. The devastation we see in Lebanon today only serves to recruit for Hezbollah tomorrow...I don't know what the answer is, but part of it must come from everyone wearying of hatred, destruction and death.

Much like in Northern Ireland, everyone must finally decide that death in battle is not a glorious end. We need to have leaders that offer hope and not fear, and a society that believes in fostering life and not death.
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jiguma said 4005 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
Powerful
Graham, thanks for the thoughtful comment - your words pretty much sum
up how I feel about war in general, and I appreciate that you have perhaps
crystallised my thoughts better than I could have myself.
It's so frustrating that we, as individuals can't really do anything to help.
Keeping our minds open and encouraging others to do likewise is perhaps
our best chance.
Peace,
Neil

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illuminati said 4004 days ago (August 11th, 2006)
What a powerful chorus and message
There are some terrific elements in this well-conceived song. I have some
minor quibbles with the vocal effect (I would love the verse and the
chorus to have a different feel, the chorus staying the same, and the
verses having less doubling or delay.) and the drums, while sounding
tremendous, seem to be too far back in the mix. Minor stuff. The praise
people are heaping on this is well deserved.
jiguma said 4004 days ago (August 12th, 2006)
What a powerful chorus and message
Thanks for the suggestions Matt, and thanks for taking the time to listen and
comment. Your point about varying the vox is a good one, and I'll be giving
that a try when i get around to remixing this. Likewise, there is potential to
drop the volume of the other tracks relative to the drums. I'm glad you liked
the song overall - "Saturnine" is excellent btw.
Peace,
Neil

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Alannah said 4004 days ago (August 12th, 2006)
WOW ...
What can I say that hasn't already been said ! this is FANTABULOUS !!!! And as far as no one getting to hear it ... well so far it has had almost 400 listens as I write this .... and I'm sure it's gonna get lots more ... wish the "listens" actually produced some "results" or perpetuated some sort of "change" in the crazy status of our world ! Great collab guys !
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jiguma said 4004 days ago (August 12th, 2006)
WOW ...
Thanks Allanah - appreciate you dropping by. Not sure what's going to
change the status, but we can all do our bit I suppose.
Really pleased to see you leaving such a nice note.
Peace,
Neil

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ziti said 4003 days ago (August 13th, 2006)
in the weeks since
jiguma sent me this with a polite request to add my thing to it,
hundreds more have been killed. Today as i write this, there is talk of
a new cease fire. This makes cease fire #6,245 in my lifetime. Why
don't I feel real confident about this one? hmmmm?

There are people in the world, killing in the name of God. How can this
possibly be?? How can anyone's God condone killing a baby, a woman,
an old person trying to die with dignity??...

I can be brought down by this, because it all seems so hopeless. It
wears on me. What can possibly be done to stop this insanity?

Pray for peace, pray for love, pray for hope. Give SOMEONE
SOMEWHERE the leadership and wisdom to save us all. The rest of
us...LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. DO UNTO OTHERS
AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU. It seems so simple. It makes so
much sense. It would make life beautiful.
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Scott Carmichael said 4002 days ago (August 13th, 2006)
in the weeks since
Amen.... Z if you ever get arthritis in your hands... you could preach...
seriously... Amen
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jiguma said 4002 days ago (August 14th, 2006)
in the weeks since
Couldn't have put it better myself Fran! Thanks again for your playing on this
- I really appreciated it.
Neil

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ziti said 4003 days ago (August 13th, 2006)
and oh yeah
Thank Neil Porter for putting these words and this music together. It is
an important song. I am proud to be a part of it.

Thanks JIGUMA!!!!!
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Nolan said 3994 days ago (August 21st, 2006)
Excellent
Nice singing, Neil. Great harmonies. I love the chord progression:
suitably compelling.

Ziti's guitaring is superb!
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eleveneyes said 3994 days ago (August 22nd, 2006)
blown away
havn't been here in a while so i got some catching up to do and I'm sure
glad i caught up with this beautifully perfect song. wow. don't even know
what to type. so i'm gonna listen agian and get blown away.
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Macaudion said 3972 days ago (September 13th, 2006)
Good on ya
Nyyyyyyyyyyyce - I LOVE your vocal work on this one - And your playing which is w/ such command these days - Oh so sweet when Z comse in at the point where you are transitioning - Dang! Pretty damn good stuff you guys have cooked up - This is real home cookn' - Man!...

Thanks guys - Dion
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said 3605 days ago (September 15th, 2007)
Master !
All i can say is WOW ! WOW ! WOW !
Mr. Neil this is my favorite work of your stuff, the story brought tears to my eyes, one of the best musics i've ever heard .. Mr. Fran's solo CRY OUT ! I love this style, great words, great singing, MASTER PIECE !
KUDOS ! This is unforgettable song

(Sorry for being late, but i hope to see my comment)

Take Care
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Yeman Auf Al-Rawi
said 3420 days ago (March 18th, 2008)
Tell it
I'm a little late to the comment pool. Wonderful song. Important.
said 3374 days ago (May 3rd, 2008)
Blown Away
Awwwe so sad and yet magnificantly sang with such feelings and powerful emotions. You guys have really carried this off. Music spot on.

Made me feel soo humble and thankful for what I have and to be alive also. Thank you.
Peace love respect.

Dee xx
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