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Judas (by Kari Kraakevik)

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Notes from the original upload:

Here is the final mix...

I have been uploading weekly evolutions of this song on a
different account and some of you have been listening and
making comments.

A friend of mine Kari, asked me to help her mix some music that
she was working on as part of her music degree. So she turns up
at my house about 6 weeks ago with a midi file, a PDF score and
said 'see what you can do with this'

The midi file was the music you hear here sans drums, bass and

The first thing we did was to re-do the instrumentation replacing
the sounds in the midi file with the East-West Symphonic Gold
orchestral sounds. We did the orchestral sounds on Logic 5.5 on
the PC and then bounced them down and transferred them to
Logic 8 on the Mac.

Immediately I found the tricky thing for me was the tempo
changes that Kari had programmed into the midi file (either on pro
tools or finale)

Next step was the vocals. We recorded them about 4 weeks ago -
doing many takes. From these we created a composite of all the
best bits. A little bit of tweaking in Melodyne and we had our vocal

At this point, Kari asked if we could add guitar, drums and bass -
something I hadn't accounted for at the beginning of this project
and it was something I knew I was going to find extremely difficult
to do.

This was for 3 main reasons - the aforementioned tempo changes
meant that it was impossible just to drop loops into the track. The
fact that this is a style which I have absolutely no experience with
put me outside of my comfort zone. The final reason was to do
with a limited amount of time I had available due to a forthcoming
trip to England. This meant I had to work to a very strict deadline
as well as try to fit in a number of other projects I am concurrently
working on not to mention other non music related obligations.

I tried to add guitar but failed miserably so I decided to focus on
drums and bass (using Battery 3 and the ES1 synth in Logic). I
played every drum beat manually - snare, hi hat, kick etc...and
then painstakingly pulled and pushed them in to place using the
matrix editor.

The bass was done similarly.

After hearing a mix with these additions, we realised the vocals
were now in need of extra timing pushes. So out came the digital
scissors and more cutting and splicing took place.

Kari had heard some of the other pieces I am working on at the
moment and fell in love with mellotron sounds I used on some of
those tracks (which are yet to be posted). So she asked if she
could try it in this track and added some mellotron sounds this

Today we worked on the overall mix levels of the track and
corrected a few outlying drum, bass and vocal timing issues.
We added the reverbs we wanted and little bit of vocal delay
effect on one vocal section.

So given the fact that 'I' have run out of time for any more work on
this, here is the final mix in its imperfect glory of Kari Kraakevik's
'Judas', probably the most un-bibanova/particledots-like track you
will ever hear from me on macjams.

It is something we may tweak in future after I get back from the
UK in Sept, but it is very unlikely.

Step aside Andrew Lloyd Weber

Music, Lyrics, Vocal Performances, Mellotron sounds and
arrangement by Kari

Production in Logic Audio 5.5 and 8.01, attempts at drums and
bass on a tempo fluctuating track by me.

(many thanks to Cat for the helpful suggestions over the last few
weeks and also to Feter for his support and comments each week
as new mixes were posted)
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Uploaded: Jun 08, 2009 - 10:37:42 PM
Last Updated: Jun 08, 2009 - 10:40:54 PM Last Played: Jan 08, 2018 - 05:36:54 PM
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Char said 3182 days ago (June 8th, 2009)
Nice work.
Kari is my daughter's name too. Enjoyed this. Thanks.
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Diviner said 3182 days ago (June 9th, 2009)
Very nice change
This is a step out of your norm. This have been very well composed, muchos kudos. Love how you have done a rock opera, however it does go with the lovely singing really well. Nice one Bryn.
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ShadowofNine said 3182 days ago (June 9th, 2009)
is grand, the east-west instruments are full and dynamic, the composition is really outstanding, and the performance is very very nice...Bravo
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Reinholt56 said 3182 days ago (June 9th, 2009)
Hi Bryn......
With all the hard work you've both clearly put into this song, it is a work of art. Excellent.

Thanks for all the technical/production details. They are invaluable to me in many, many ways.

Take care.

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LunaTrick said 3181 days ago (June 9th, 2009)
Wow Bryn
What a challenge... and you came through... yeah, Kick Andy LW to the curb... this is better!
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Go_Turtle_Go said 3180 days ago (June 10th, 2009)
with a tad of gothic rock in her voice and used instruments. love the tempo changes, but especially her reach, what solid sweeps (ahum, she aint a synth...anyway) and tremolo's. tres cool.
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damiengh said 3178 days ago (June 13th, 2009)
Incredible voice
What an incredible voice and matching arrangement. What a payoff here for your efforts. Your ready for broadway, yes you are. Nice work with the percussion.
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Vic Holman said 3177 days ago (June 13th, 2009)
man, all that time and energy put in to this really paid off. the end result is fantastic!
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kassia said 3174 days ago (June 16th, 2009)
well first of all
nice picture on your artist page. lol...love the wig. this is HUGE! that string/percussion opening is incredible and then those brass come in. what a grandly orchestrated piece - perfectly suited to kari's incredible vocals. this is beautiful. you did a great job getting those beats to fit. wow this is great. big full production sound. kudos to both of you.
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shavingronaldscar said 3170 days ago (June 21st, 2009)
really original work here. Great harmonics!
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Hydrogen3 said 3170 days ago (June 21st, 2009)
wonderful production!
Awesome intstrumentation and vocals are phenominal!!
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bud said 3048 days ago (October 21st, 2009)
Missed this earlier
Brilliant work Bryn - can't imagine building drums like that - such patience and fortitude. Sounds great!
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tonestones said 3045 days ago (October 24th, 2009)
Beautiful production
Love the mix. Great song.
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Daugrin said 3045 days ago (October 24th, 2009)
When you take a risk, it seems a sure thing. Great job all around.

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said 3045 days ago (October 24th, 2009)
good grief
chills up and down my spine. Marvelous mix

I'm takin a copy, thanks!

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maxruehl said 3045 days ago (October 24th, 2009)
This is great work. I love cinematic-sounding orchestral stuff. Kari is a real talent. Nice job putting this together, Bryn.
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Lennon714 said 2916 days ago (March 1st, 2010)
followed your facebook post
I was all confused until I read the original upload date. This is massive. And massively impressive. Your patience and attention to detail is to die for. Always yields solid results.
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papag said 2719 days ago (September 14th, 2010)
Judas did it
Great work!

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