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Fake Parade


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Daugrin

 Genre: Latin Jazz

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Still aint posted anything ah fake Mjer? Here's why...
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Uploaded: Jun 12, 2019 - 12:01:39 AM
Last Updated: Jun 12, 2019 - 12:01:39 AM Last Played: Jul 14, 2019 - 09:17:39 PM
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Narad said 35 days ago (June 12th, 2019)
Parade
Vivid and intensive ! Enjoyed the listen ! :)
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Daugrin said 35 days ago (June 12th, 2019)
Hello old friend
We have been listening to each others music for a longtime. MJs was such a great idea... Funny how the thing evolved, where the only people still posting are the people who never benefited from the sock and meat puppets to begin with, isn't it rich, the people who needed the puppet culture can't post in a real MJs.

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
Calchas said 35 days ago (June 12th, 2019)
Cool tune...
But I would like it better without distortion/effects on the vocals. I happen to like your regular voice quite a bit Daug.

Guitar and keys... especially the keys... are righteous.

:-)
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Daugrin said 35 days ago (June 12th, 2019)
Hey Mike
I am not going to waste valuable creative time singing harmonies, I can give you renderings on those so easily... my pipes are not up to the "one and done" ethos after Luckys and alcohol for 40 years... that would be work for me, not doing that... I would be glad to send the things to you and you could do them lol... The effect on the bridge section of spoken word is part of the humor of the piece, at least I thought it was funny when I made it, laughed myself up to a coughing fit on playback lol...
I appreciate yer use of the word righteous. The synth parts I created for this were the high points for me. B-3, piano and D-6 Clav on the keys- unique to my recordings here at MJs I think...

Daug
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Calchas said 31 days ago (June 16th, 2019)
Your keys
are not only played well as per usual, but they always sound so clear and clean to me. I always enjoy listening to them in particular.
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KCsGROOVE said 35 days ago (June 12th, 2019)
fake parade
Never a dull moment with you, Daug :-)
cool tempo changes and excellent work on the keys
very much enjoyed!
KC
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Daugrin said 34 days ago (June 13th, 2019)
Hello KC
Dull moments? Naw, we can't have those... I will start drinking, I have to stay busy.
Thanks for hanging out here, there are several tempo changes, good ears!
Glad you enjoyed the ride.

Daug


Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
Dadai.2 said 34 days ago (June 13th, 2019)
smooth groove...
I dig this kinda music. Very coooolll...
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Daugrin said 34 days ago (June 13th, 2019)
Hello Jack
Thanks for your support on this project. I made an effort to keep the cool factor high, I guess that part worked okay :)

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
grah3am said 34 days ago (June 13th, 2019)
Melody!
I am usually intimidated by your pieces, as i have no idea about musical theory, but this one is pleasantly melodic - a treat for us simple souls.
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Daugrin said 34 days ago (June 13th, 2019)
Familiar Form
You shouldn't be intimidated, what a funny thing to say... What you are perceiving is the form I adapted. The form sounds familiar. Normally I use a unique form. This one is a latin groove in four.
As the big ears pointed out already I used tempo changes to add interest. I wrote a traditional chorus and added a middle eight, but each time any form is re-introduced there are alterations to perk up the ears.
There are lots of resources available these days, I am always looking for stuff to steal ideas from lol Most popular music is simple. If you have some modern theory tools it soon becomes a habit where you will mentally parse music yer hearing. This becomes very natural and you can create arrangements in your head with notes you might write on a napkin or paper bag if you happen to hear something and not be sitting at the piano. A old guy story for this? Jimi Hendrix goes to dinner at Zappa's house.
Frank Zappa wrote his creative output down as fly specks on paper and was aware of advanced harmony and rhythmic conceptions because he trained himself as a modern composer. Zappa literally passed out the music to play when he was teaching his band a new tune, Hendrix could not share his ideas by writing them out or describing them in the traditional classical manner.
Hendrix had to play or sing his ideas to other musician. Both men were talented but Zappa's training allowed his bands to play complex and challenging modern music. By contrast Hendrix would figure out an idea he generated or borrowed quickly on the guitar and then teach others he was playing with at the time the information using the Nashville system and muscle memory.

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
charlieknight said 33 days ago (June 14th, 2019)
love it,
hope you're wearing your cuban heels and bandana.
re above, the Beatles actively avoided contact with music theory as they were afraid of losing what "magic" they had. I wonder if they were right. I've always used them as an internal excuse for being lazy about theory - because it is hard!

I guess with "kind of blue", Miles' rough ideas were understood by Evans and co in the light of a thorough grounding in theory.

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Daugrin said 33 days ago (June 14th, 2019)
Cowboy Hats!
Hey Charlie thanks for listening, I got some words on your comments about theory :) Knowing what you are doing makes doing things you don't know how to do easier... When you know you know, then you can do anything... How to get there is the thing. Sitting down at the piano and playing along with adult contemporary radio for a few weeks, four or five hours a day, that's how I learned to comp...
The groove above is a Texas Tejano band thing, the Cuban bands flavors would be much different :)...
PMac's Dad was a piano player in the English Home tradition- Paul learned music stuff at home growing up. How did Lennon get ideas? He had one of the largest collections of 45s in the world, he would scour the "B" sides of records looking for ideas he could adapt. "B" sides of 45s were experimental space for many and so the fresh ideas where there...
Miles wrote, and rehearsed his bands in secret before showing up to a record, his players where the most gifted and they as a group worked the hardest at being the best they could be... they knew theory and practice. "Those that can't-don't". Music, on the jazz bandstand reduced to four words.

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
jiguma said 32 days ago (June 15th, 2019)
Fake Parade
Lots happening in there - I'd love to watch how you go about doing this stuff. A fascinating listen.
Cheers from Oz,
N
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Daugrin said 32 days ago (June 15th, 2019)
Composed Through
Watching guys rehearse is boring right? (Could not pay my gal to sit through another band rehearsal after she got her ring.) Neil my process looks like how ya teach guys a tune in rehearsal.
Bang it out on the piano and get a percussion track going. Work out an agreement with the bass player on the structure. Once the rhythm section is more or less tidy, I work the comp and special keyboard parts next, vocals and then guitars last. Computer processing plan: if I am making something big I have to mix down to a basic track before continuing. This piece is on the limits of what I can do without bouncing down.
I am making something I am hearing, so I can go really fast and sometimes I can hear something long enough to finish it up kinda. I have suggested my process is akin to making sausage. It all depends on if I can hear the thing long enough to get a track completed. More often than not tracks fail and are abandoned, just like writing in rehearsal.

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
jiguma said 32 days ago (June 15th, 2019)
Process
Thanks for the outline Daug - I hadn't thought about it before, but the "how ya teach guys a tune in rehearsal" approach is probably what I use too. I find it much easier to do it all myself than to actually try to get a band to join in that sort of approach in the Shed. Probably explains why a lot of the PBGB stuff is a bit under-developed.
Thanks again - back to sausage manufacturing.
N
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DWL said 30 days ago (June 17th, 2019)
Reading the comments
is almost as fascinating as listening to the music.

First of all I really like those dissonances that peak through every now and again. Could be mistakes but I think you want them there. I still can't get my head around how you shift what seems to be steady pattern into something different.

A really interesting discussion on your creative process. You make it sound straightforward but there's far more to it than that.

I studied theory. I've got a degree in it but I rarely actively use it unless I'm writing for strings or an orchestra.

Re one of the comments about the Beatles staying away from theory, I remember reading a deconstruction of some of their early tracks. One thing that made them stand out from other bands was there unconventional harmonies (not a lot of I III V there).

Anyway, loved the track, 'nuff said.

Cheers

Dick
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Daugrin said 30 days ago (June 17th, 2019)
Hello Richard!
Fascinating discussion is the norm in the Daug House because the big ears come and opine. Answering questions and making illustrative remarks is the best part of the experience, thank you for dropping by and sharing in the discussion.
My ideas about dissonance are simple, dissonance is music, without dissonance there is not silence, but sonorous sameness, mediocracy! I would describe what is happening in the organ solo on this cut as an entanglement featuring rhythmic displacement and making creative use of the sonic tone shaping abilities of the organ and the Lesley. If you listen carefully the solo is of modal design and features active pitch theory concepts. But what do I know...
Dick you were in bands and taught guys how to play stuff in rehearsal. We built up arrangements in an identical manner with a DAW. What is different today? No one has comp skills, no one can improvise, and no one works. People expect the band to: sound like a CD, look a certain way, have lazors and disco lights and work for less than the catering bill.
I want to challenge you right now to put your full brain in gear on something. No use all that bought and paid for knowledge going to waste, you know if you don't use it, ya lose it?
Funny about disinformation and Beatles. I did not want to put Charlie off but literally nothing people have been told about Beatles is true. While Epstein was alive every detail was controlled. If the truth be told Epstein was as much a Beatle as the Mop Tops and their Fab Producer.

Daug
Check out my latest song called Ramona Part ll
DWL said 29 days ago (June 18th, 2019)
Thanks for the reply
I like your description of dissonance. One could argue, and I've heard them, that any sound is music dependant on your interpretation. The train that rumbles past at 5 a.m. a few hundred yards from us is music. It is sound that adds value to my life and I miss it when I'm away. Your "dissonances" please me as they shock me out of mediocrity.

I honestly don't understand the "modal design or pitch theory concepts" comments but then again I never really understood the voice leading approach to harmony.

Yeah, I was in aband where sometimes I would show the others what I wanted but more often than not they would ignore it and go their own way which nearly always werebetter than what I heard. It's what I miss about being in a band. I have few people to bounce ideas with.

I have used my education to good effect. My first song on MJ was just after I completed my course https://www.macjams.com/song/25474 I'm not sure I ever went any further in the end.

Once again thanks for the reply. A beer or two would be fun sometime if you ever venture over here (I don't fly so it won't be the other way)

Cheers

Dick


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